Advice about watching tonight's SPN?

Jan. 14th, 2014 at 11:05 PM

I'm really worried about tonight's episode. I kind of wish they could put warnings on them like with fan fic. I saw a spoiler cap of Sam looking like he was getting a similar treatment to what Samandriel got from Crowley. How much of the episode is torture and are there parts I should skip? Who wrote it? Spoil me all you want. I haven't been able to sit through an ep since 9.08 but I've been reading spoilers. I miss my show but can't handle the nightmares either.

How is the non-con possession and Dean lying handled when Sam learns what is going on? Has that happened yet? Did it seem like a satisfactory response?

I know Jensen had a rough time filming this one. How emotionally rough is it? On a scale from Cas's trenchoat in the pond (a 2.0 - some shaking, not much visible damage) to the grieving scene in AHBL part 2 (a 7.9 - nothing but rubble left)?

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zebra363

Jan. 15th, 2014 01:46 am (UTC)

I'd say, be ready with the fast-forward.

There's quite a bit of torture of the Samandriel kind. At least it's all in one block and you can easily FF through it.

Andrew Dabb wrote it.

More non-con possession (by Crowley this time, with the aim of alerting Sam so he can cast out Gadreel), though it does come to an end and is treated fairly seriously, though briefly: they have a conversation and Dean leaves to avoid inflicting more damage on those around him.

Emotionally rough rating 6?

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galwithglasses

Jan. 15th, 2014 01:54 am (UTC)

Thanks, that's really helpful, especially knowing it's one big chunk to skip. I'd like to be able to watch most of it.

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zebra363

Jan. 15th, 2014 02:15 am (UTC)

Torture at 24:30 to 25:20, then Dean and Castiel step out and have a conversation that's interspersed with Sam/Gadreel yelling in the distance. From 26:55 they're back with Sam with the pins in his head, but there's no more yelling since by then the pins have been adjusted correctly to make him talk.

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galwithglasses

Jan. 15th, 2014 03:16 pm (UTC)

Thanks so much, that's great help. Maybe I'll give it a go.

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hugemind

Jan. 15th, 2014 04:44 am (UTC)

The torture is much less graphic that it was with Samandriel. There's still yelling, but to me it looked like there's also way less gore and they've shot&cut the scene so that they are not laser-focused on Sam's pained face (e.g. camera moving around Sam, semi-fading cuts, long shots).

Crowley goes in Sam to chase Gadreel out and comes out after having done so.

Sam learns of the noncon possession at the end of the ep and it's treated seriously, but the boys could have talked more (think Dean leaving at the end of "Slash Fiction" when he learned that Dean killed Amy, but with less angry and more resigned Sam and Dean who chose to leave instead of waiting for Sam to tell him to go). The end really made me cry, so I'd say 7.0 - mostly rubbles but the family album might still be salvageable.

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